In this new episode Steven sits down with the CEO and Co-Founder of DECIEM and The Ordinary, Nicola Kilner.

0:00 Intro
02:39 Where do you come from?
05:36 Skills you learnt working at a big corporation
10:13 Starting your own business
15:14 Co-founders relationships
17:49 Building the best team culture
26:02 Work-life balance
31:38 Why do you call yourself 'an unqualified CEO’
37:54 The Ordinary's success
45:14 My co-founder started acting differently
53:05 He fired me from my own company!
01:04:03 We had to take drastic measures
01:09:12 He shut down the company
01:17:27 A journalist told us the horrific news
01:27:21 Carrying on his legacy
01:28:34 Our company didn't have a strategy
01:32:19 The small details that got Deciem where it is today
01:36:21 Deciem stats
01:37:27 Advice to your younger self starting up
01:45:52 How are you today?
01:47:49 The last guest’s question

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